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Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko Hits Rough Waters Over Alphabet Soup

By Danny Howard

As if things couldn’t get any more messier in the wake of Tyson Fury’s drug-induced meltdown over the course of the past few weeks, it seems that the fallout is now a core reason that Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko has gone from a near-done deal to absolute uncertainty with time quickly running out.

Joshua/Klitschko had quickly gained steam after Fury pulled out of his rematch with Klitschko earlier this month and even former Cruiserweight and Heavyweight champion David Haye leaked that the fight between the two was all set to go for November. While Joshua’s IBF title would of course be on the line in the massive step up against Klitschko, a sticking point has come from the WBA and their non-committal to sanction the bout for their now vacated title.

Klitschko lost the WBA title along with the WBO belt to Fury last year, with the IBF title being vacated shortly thereafter and claimed by Joshua after beating Charles Martin earlier this year. The WBO belt will be on the line when Joseph Parker faces off against Andy Ruiz in the coming months, but Klitschko is adamant that his former belt be on the line in addition to Joshua’s title.

Not to be deterred, Joshua’s camp has also made efforts to convince the WBA to put their gold at stake on the proposed December 10 date, but Klitschko is not holding his breath after constant setbacks from waiting for Fury to grant him his rematch. Should talks fall apart, it may be due to the fact that the WBA has allegedly offered Klitschko a shot at the vacant title against either Lucas Brown or Alexander Ustinov, leaving Joshua without an opponent and a career-high payday according to Gareth Davies of The Telegraph.

While the most intriguing Heavyweight fight of recent memory hangs on the balance, we can only hope the WBA can make the right decision that will leave the Heavyweight division one step closer to crowning a true, undisputed champion.

Danny Howard has been all over the place, writing for FightHype, the Yahoo Contributor Network and the Examiner. He also became a legend in his own mind by writing “And Stay Down! Boxing's Worst Comebacks”. Howard doesn't have time to drown in the nega-verse that is social media, but you can find him on Facebook or breathe life into his long dead Twitter @dbbox625 or let him have it directly at

They don't get screwed, they get paid...

by Patricio Garza

“Sometimes, winning or losing isn’t that important. To say at the end of your career: oh, he went out as a champion! Well, yeah, he went out as a champion, and poor, because he didn’t make any more money. Otherwise, what are you going to live on? Pride?

It’s very hard for a boxer to truly make it. When you finally do it and you’re finally getting really good money, tell me, do you want out?”

- Erik “Terrible” Morales, 2007

I’m quite fed up with trying to explain to morons that grown men who fight for a living are not “afraid” of their colleagues. The ignorant will keep beating a dead horse until they get their fight and will bitch about any outcome. Have fun posting your ignorant opinion. Speaking of opinions that boxers are right to ignore, I’d like to discuss suspicious weight class jumps and the business (real) reasons for avoiding fights.

Many fans tend to feel their favorite fighters are somehow tricked into bad deals in the form of nearly-impossible fights. Some evil, unscrupulous manager tells the warrior not to listen to the haters: he can take on anyone if he works hard. The boxer, thoroughly inspired, bulks up two weight classes in a montage with an 80’s rock song. Then, reality hits him and he hits the canvas. Drama ensues.

That’s not to say this is always the case. A lot of boxers are, in fact, conned, tricked, bamboozled and plain-old screwed out of chances (for reference, anyone ever promoted by Don King). However, some are simply doing what makes sense financially. It’s hard to stay mad when you walk away with a check.

A couple recent examples are Kell Brook jumping two divisions to fight Golovkin and Amir Khan doing the same to fight Canelo Alvarez. No, it’s not that they were lying if they said they could win in an interview, but that doesn’t mean they’re naïve and don’t know what they’re getting into. Why would Brook, who was top three in his division and undefeated, go up two classes? Because he’s thirty years old, has had a single fight in the U.S.A. One of the bigger paydays of his career had been $200,000 playing the B-side to Shawn Porter, while the Golovkin fight earned him five million.

As for Khan, do I need to give numbers? Common sense should do it, but here it goes: he made 1.5 million against Chris Algieri and over 10 million against Canelo, who is the biggest attraction in boxing, whether you like it or not. No need to adjust for inflation, the fights are a year apart. Suddenly, the gullible stepping stone seems like a genius businessman, huh? I could go on with examples, but I think we get the moral of this story: when you’re offered ten times your salary, you say yes.

On the flip side, there are fights that you want to avoid. The principle is a no brainer: popularity equals money. Higher profiles yield higher profit. A nice, round 0 in your loss record also helps. But what’s a good rule of thumb to tell from whom you should steer clear? You take a map and marker, then circle Cuba. We know the Cuban boxing school produces elite competitors, but the amateur boxing-inspired, win-on-points style is not crowd pleasing at all. That limited mainstream appeal combined with superb talent is not something you want. If you managed a popular super bantamweight boxer, would you be dumb enough throw him against Rigondeaux? Of course not. It’s the most high-risk, low-reward matchup possible. Not only would your boy most likely get schooled, but you’d have nothing to show for it.

To quickly return to the topic of Canelo, he was stubborn to ask for a fight against Lara. De la Hoya, of course, didn’t want that, and for good reason. Canelo insisted, went on to fight Lara, took a decision victory, moved up, and now Lara sits at the top of the super welterweight division with dimes compared to what he made. Yet Canelo is supposed to be a coward somehow. If you ever decide to stop jacking it to tribute videos, you’ll find the answers for all supposed mismatches and negotiation hurdles in the numbers.

Welcome to the real world. The only real fear is bad business.

Luis Ortiz vs. Malik Scott Lands on HBO For 11/12

By Danny Howard

Weeks after signing with Matchroom Boxing after a tepid run with Golden Boy Promotions, Cuban Heavyweight Luis Ortiz (25-0, 22 KO, WBA Interim) was quickly matched up with former prospect Malik Scott (38-2-1, 13 KO) for a stacked card in Monte Carlo. Ortiz/Scott will be aired on HBO on the weekend of November 12, but it is yet to be seen if any of the other fights in Monaco will be aired as Ortiz/Scott is a co-feature to the Arthur Abraham vs. Martin Murray rematch.

The heavy-handed Ortiz is making his second appearance of the year after stopping late substitute Tony Thompson last Spring, but the 36-year-old Cuban saw a bout with Alexander Ustinov come close to materializing before taking his matters with his ex-promoter to task. Ortiz was allegedly not happy with his situation and unsure if Golden Boy would be able to deliver on a shot at the Heavyweight title, but Ortiz found himself aligned with the much more influential Eddie Hearn and is back on track against the also-ran American.

Scott is coming off of wins against former title challengers Alex Lepai and Thompson, going 3-2-1 in his last six, but the losses were very telling. Both losses came by knockout to Derek Chisora and Deontay Wilder with the draw being a heavily suspect one against Vyacheslav Glazkov in a fight nobody thought Glazkov won. At one time, Scott was considered one of the most promising prospects, but inactivity and managerial issues have constantly plagued him throughout his career and is now seen as a mere opponent to Chisora.

For what it’s worth, Scott will not be at a physical disadvantage against Ortiz as both stand 6’4 and Scott is well-rounded from a fundamental standpoint, but a win against the much more aggressive Ortiz would be a tremendous upset. Though it may not even be the best fight on the card it is featured on, it is a fight nonetheless on a once non-existent boxing calendar for HBO Boxing.

Danny Howard has been all over the place, writing for FightHype, the Yahoo Contributor Network and the Examiner. He also became a legend in his own mind by writing “And Stay Down! Boxing's Worst Comebacks”. Howard doesn't have time to drown in the nega-verse that is social media, but you can find him on Facebook or breathe life into his long dead Twitter @dbbox625 or let him have it directly at